tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post7892275472097018804..comments2023-06-16T16:08:23.446+01:00Comments on Edinburgh Housewife: Nulliparous Emergency Message BoardMrs McLeanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-81719084054726975872015-05-13T00:25:00.714+01:002015-05-13T00:25:00.714+01:00Oh, blast. Only saw these now. Aussie Girl in NZ i...Oh, blast. Only saw these now. Aussie Girl in NZ is a long-term reader who used to be Single and how has been married for a while. <br /><br />Aussie Girl, nobody was interested in insulting you or hurting your feelings. This post was specifically for those childless women who suffer feelings of loss and/or loneliness (etc) on Mothers' Day. Mrs McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-88714483734969597352015-05-12T16:29:36.019+01:002015-05-12T16:29:36.019+01:00Book lover, I didn't think you lacked compassi...Book lover, I didn't think you lacked compassion for struggling moms (and I am a mom, though mostly only struggling with puking too much from pregnancy). I agree with your comments in the previous post about mothers getting a lot of support from the catholic community, if not the wider community. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01862608839870093437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-62053346237472013842015-05-12T08:22:56.512+01:002015-05-12T08:22:56.512+01:00I always say that it takes adult men three years o...I always say that it takes adult men three years of seminary to learn what girls instinctively know from the playground. But in some cases they still don't get it. I remember a seminarian telling me, his eyes wide in shock, about a woman who came weeping up to his priest-friend who had given a hearty homily about how great mothers are to tell him how awful her mother was. "If you can't give a homily on Mothers, what can you give a homily about?" he wondered, and I thought, "Buddy, do YOU have a lot to learn about women!"Mrs McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-14895543872378734382015-05-11T22:24:55.065+01:002015-05-11T22:24:55.065+01:00You're welcome. And as tomorrow is Tuesday tha...You're welcome. And as tomorrow is Tuesday that is a good day for people to email their priests to say "Thank for mentioning spiritual mothers!" or "Dear Father, I don't know if you noticed the faces of the married women who had to sit when the others were asked to stand..."<br />Mrs McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-31785001563828132422015-05-11T22:24:14.135+01:002015-05-11T22:24:14.135+01:00I tried to make it to my regular EF, but it didn&#...I tried to make it to my regular EF, but it didn't happen. Ever since learning about the EF's extra prayers for the bride, if I ever get married, I'll make sure it's in the EF because I need all the prayers. <br />Attending daily Mass at the same church today, a different priest had to point out that yesterday was Mother's Day and to make his belated wishings of happiness. And I wondered if anyone cares about belated father's day. Truthfinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937672867378660928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-30039271669627045282015-05-11T22:06:35.286+01:002015-05-11T22:06:35.286+01:00A day late, but I wanted to say thank you to Sheli...A day late, but I wanted to say thank you to Shelia, whom I remembered during the awful moments of the sheep-from-goats stand/sit blessing. I looked around at all the (older than I) women, some sitting with husbands, and prayed for them. I do wish priests would be more attentive to the statistically-likely high numbers of women who suffer from regret of an abortion, in addition to those who are infertile, had miscarriages, etc. I plan to write or speak kindly to the pastor about it, but was too emotional yesterday to do so. Thanks, Seraphic, for the community of solidarity and Shelia, for stubbornly sitting with us. MaryJanenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-6861541621297706512015-05-11T21:44:40.028+01:002015-05-11T21:44:40.028+01:00No standing up blessing from the EF Mass I attende...No standing up blessing from the EF Mass I attended yesterday, but they were selling roses for Mother's day outside, proceeds to go to the local crisis pregnancy center. The homily, though, was about the power of prayer; it was a visiting priest, and I've heard him preach before, and it's one of his go-to topics.)Cojuancohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10370602894706553030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-41795031006257723032015-05-11T21:44:21.234+01:002015-05-11T21:44:21.234+01:00No standing up blessing from the EF Mass I attende...No standing up blessing from the EF Mass I attended yesterday, but they were selling roses for Mother's day outside, proceeds to go to the local crisis pregnancy center. The homily, though, was about the power of prayer; it was a visiting priest, and I've heard him preach before, and it's one of his go-to topics.)Cojuancohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10370602894706553030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-12072069799358516792015-05-11T18:28:18.134+01:002015-05-11T18:28:18.134+01:00Thank you, that is very nice of you! He really nee...Thank you, that is very nice of you! He really needs every prayer he can get.Magdalenanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-72211543856832377882015-05-11T16:08:27.681+01:002015-05-11T16:08:27.681+01:00Apparently there is a legit OF Mother's Day bl...Apparently there is a legit OF Mother's Day blessing for mothers, but as for the Stand Up and Be Applauded, plus flowers, plus whatever else--who knows?! Three quarters of what priests came up with for the liturgy during and after Vatican II had no mandate from Vatican II. They made stuff up and it spread like wildfire. Mrs McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-85658438854860481772015-05-11T15:03:19.444+01:002015-05-11T15:03:19.444+01:00Oh, and, yes, Julia, I definitely agree with your ...Oh, and, yes, Julia, I definitely agree with your second comment. :) Babies cry on planes, and people should be patient. <br /><br />I just loved the thoughtfulness and creativity of those parents. :) booklovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-4105707302786298862015-05-11T14:58:13.730+01:002015-05-11T14:58:13.730+01:00Ouch. I did not say that either, Aussie Girl, and ...Ouch. I did not say that either, Aussie Girl, and I would never, ever dream of telling a mother to stop complaining, because at least she has kids. :( I'm the oldest of 11, and believe me, I know what a sacrifice babies are, and I know how mean some people can be to parents. <br /><br />All I was try to do was say that people don't hate babies as much as Catholics think they do sometimes. I'm sorry if it came across a little too ranty, but I was a little frustrated, and I thought this was a safe place to be able vent a little to other singles/childless without having to worry about moms popping out to chastise me for not having enough compassion for struggling moms. :'( <br /><br />If I had realized there were also moms reading/commenting, I wouldn't have posted it. booklovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-34755525645413950592015-05-11T14:14:25.265+01:002015-05-11T14:14:25.265+01:00Thank you Seraphic, and all other spiritual mother...Thank you Seraphic, and all other spiritual mothers, for your care and prayers. A great blessing to the church to have your nurturing of those often overlooked by the church family.<br /><br />I was thrilled that our fantastic young polynesian priest gave a blessing for all mothers, but did not ask them to stand (which has been past practice) after he was asked not to prior to mass (and reasons given). It does seem to be sinking in... :)<br /><br />Newlywed housewife - I'm sorry to hear of the challenges you are facing, but at least your husband is with you in mass! That's a great joy. A sad aspect at our parish is the number of mothers you think are widows until their husband turns up for an occasional Easter or Christmas mass. I often think how hard that must be for them.<br /><br />Aussie Girl - haha, yeh, you may have to spell it out in capitals for your hubby. Antipodean males not known for our mind-reading skills, proven every Valentines Day and Mothers Day, and wedding anniversaries, birthdays, ... ooops! sorry. Congrats on the new baby too :)<br /><br />Magdalena - our priests normally give encouraging sermons on fathers at Fathers Day.<br /><br />Southern Bloke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-11291192705723414762015-05-11T14:05:51.453+01:002015-05-11T14:05:51.453+01:00"I think it's nice in turn not to say to ..."I think it's nice in turn not to say to struggling mothers that they should be happy they have kids and that it isn't as hard as they say it is so stop complaining."<br /><br />Yeah, except...I, uh, didn't actually say that.<br /><br />As for people who complain about children being children in public? I think there are two basic types of those people -- the ones who were raised with "children should be seen and not heard", and the ones whose biggest hardship in life has been listening to a crying child for twenty minutes. And you are right -- that second type can be a problem these days, I think.<br />Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03992516879346846271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-33502492119782337152015-05-11T13:59:46.728+01:002015-05-11T13:59:46.728+01:00How did the Standing-Ovation-Flower shenanigans be...How did the Standing-Ovation-Flower shenanigans become so widespread in the OF though? I'm not puzzled that a bunch of priests decided to play fast and loose with the Liturgy -- I'm surprised they all did it the same way. Do they have, like, annual conventions where they discuss New Ideas For Staying Relevant?Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03992516879346846271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-86992608807764503002015-05-11T09:14:44.595+01:002015-05-11T09:14:44.595+01:00Well since they are ages 22 months and 3 months th...Well since they are ages 22 months and 3 months they need a bit of help in sending cards. My hope is that if we make it a yearly ritual they will eventually do it themselves :-) <br /><br />Aussie girl in NZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-45843835401589152042015-05-11T08:44:08.161+01:002015-05-11T08:44:08.161+01:00Good for you for standing! Whoo-hoo!
Since I hav...Good for you for standing! Whoo-hoo! <br /><br />Since I have not mentioned this for the past two days, I will point out that these made-up Stand-for-the-Blessing-and-Here's-a-Flower shenanigans do not happen at the Extraordinary Form of the Mass. <br /><br />Meanwhile, the "Prayer over the Bride" (hee hee hee) in the N. O. wedding service (and maybe it comes from the E.F., admittedly) --there is no prayer for the groom--gives the slightest impression that the woman has Gone Off the Rails by getting married instead of deciding to stay a virgin and is now at risk of some horrible fate. Personally, I liked the extra attention the bride gets during the wedding service, although really at the end of the day I wish I had taken more trouble about my hair. Sigh.Mrs McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-11197515234666681032015-05-11T08:38:59.838+01:002015-05-11T08:38:59.838+01:00Dear Newlywed Housewife, I am so sorry that happen...Dear Newlywed Housewife, I am so sorry that happened to you. How well I know the cycle-starting heartbreak. Hang in there sweetie. It sounds like your husband is there for you, so that is very, very good.Mrs McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-25817905916216971702015-05-11T08:36:09.708+01:002015-05-11T08:36:09.708+01:00Oh, Aussie Girl, good for you for all those things...Oh, Aussie Girl, good for you for all those things! (C-section, though. Eeeek!) Mother's Day cards from Godsons are a very nice idea, although definitely they should come from the Godsons themselves! But most of all, I am glad you told your husband what you needed. Good! After twenty years, he might figure it out for himself, but you never know with men. So terrible at mind-reading. (Sigh.)Mrs McLeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18095035617334068201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-86838143119733535962015-05-11T05:22:09.674+01:002015-05-11T05:22:09.674+01:00Parents rant for the same reason everybody in this...Parents rant for the same reason everybody in this comment section is ranting - sometimes it makes you feel better to get it off your chest. Yes people should be tolerant of babies crying on planes but the sad reality is, some people just aren't. Some people do seem to think that parents should never travel with or go out in public with their children. They seem to come out of the woodwork and comment whenever that picture of the earplugs is sent around. Let's all just try to be a little sensitive to each other's lot on life. I don't ever say to a single person that they should be happy they have so much freedom, can sleep in etc and shouldn't complain. I think it's nice in turn not to say to struggling mothers that they should be happy they have kids and that it isn't as hard as they say it is so stop complaining. <br /><br />Aussie girl in NZAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-77266505779226000112015-05-11T05:18:32.063+01:002015-05-11T05:18:32.063+01:00There was a special blessing at the end "for ...There was a special blessing at the end "for all mothers, expectant mothers, and spiritual mothers." Between being particularly peeved for the last couple days, and figuring I might as well stand as a spiritual mother, I did. God knows there's enough young men I've got to pray through seminary and ordination. The only saving grace to the entire Mass was the solid homily, that had absolutely nothing to do with Mother's day or fall into heresy (a big improvement over the rest of the week). Truthfinderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937672867378660928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-26573163622186677932015-05-11T04:49:21.200+01:002015-05-11T04:49:21.200+01:00Oh man. You wonder how parents have the time to co...Oh man. You wonder how parents have the time to comment-rant on the internet, seeing as they "have no time for myself anymore". <br /><br />This whole kids-on-planes thing is way out of control.<br /><br />Kids cry, parents should soothe them if possible, and if it's not, then everybody should just put up with it, and parents should realise that people are being kindly tolerant of their kids. Simple. Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03992516879346846271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-24934646140069856812015-05-11T04:10:42.166+01:002015-05-11T04:10:42.166+01:00We were visiting my in-laws, with whom we have a r...We were visiting my in-laws, with whom we have a rather challenging relationship, so we were at a parish we go to only very rarely (In-laws aren't Catholic, but they go with us when we visit). Everything was lovely, with no mention of Mother's Day at all, until the end of Mass, when not only did they do the blessing, but asked around for the mother with the youngest child to present her with flowers and notified all "current and expectant" mothers that there was a gift for them. At that point, I started crying, because even though I'm youngish and haven't been married long, I'm having to do quite a bit of work medically speaking to even entertain the possibility of bearing my own children, whom I want very badly indeed. And on top of that, I started my cycle this weekend, so am clearly not pregnant, but very hormonal...it was bad, and all my poor sweet husband could do in front of his parents (who know none of this) was to hold my hand and squeeze it lovingly. I was so sad it even put me off wanting to wish my own mother, who is lovely and deserves all kinds of recognition, a happy day. I did, though, and will commiserate with her about the sadness tomorrow over coffee (she is quite sympathetic to my lady parts woes)<br /><br />Thank you, Auntie, for a safe space on the internet to ventnewlywed housewifenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-50956408301771489372015-05-11T03:33:26.767+01:002015-05-11T03:33:26.767+01:00And the URL...scroll to item #2. Beautiful. http:/...And the URL...scroll to item #2. Beautiful. http://timewarpwife.com/open-letter-pastors-non-mom-speaks-mothers-day/<br />CS in the USnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-670426779858438488.post-56436156424892844692015-05-11T03:26:32.902+01:002015-05-11T03:26:32.902+01:00We had a "bow your head for a special blessin...We had a "bow your head for a special blessing" at mass today, while we were all standing. So that was fine. At our parish mission, the priest wished a happy mother's day to mothers, grandmothers, and greatgrandmothers. And then he mentioned spiritual mothers. My elation was quickly squashed when he followed that with "I see some religious sisters here tonight." Sigh. Once again, I felt like I missed the vocation train. I really appreciate this blog on days like these! There's also a nice article being shared by Catholics on facebook that addresses all types of mothers and is very validating to all women in all their joys and sorrows. If I can find a URL I will share.<br /><br />-CS in the USanonnoreply@blogger.com